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Robert Norden

The decendants of Robert Norden who emigrated to Wake, Johnston and Cumberland North Carolina

Analysis - Children of
Melchezidek by Census

 

Contact for this research line is:
Scott Norton
snorton@nortonfamily.net

Nordin Researchers:
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Date
Cast of Characters.
 
Robert Norden, Rev - b.abt 1650 m.abt 1680 d.1725

  William Norden - b.abt 1688 in England *guess
wife Sarah *guess
Proof 6 This family lived in England
  Charles Norden - b.abt 1686 in England d.1724
(will no children)
Proof 2
  unknown son Norden
wife - Catherine Layless (Lillis) of Elizabeth Cittie, Isle of Wight. (will is witnessed by Robert Norden)
Proof 9
  Francis Noden - b.abt 1682 in England m.abt 1705 d.1717
wife - Mary (Probate wife administrix)
Proof 3
    Sarah Norden - b.abt 1706 in England
husband Arthur Bridger - b.abt 1703 d.after 1759
Proof 1
    Robert Norden b.abt 1710 m.abt 1734 d.abt 1757
wife - ???
Proof 4
      Elizabeth Noden b.abt 1739 m.1759
husband - James George
Proof 5
      Charles Noden - (inferred from Elizabeth)
Proof 5
     

Melchezidek Nordan b. abt 1735 m.abt.1760 d.abt 1819 (before 1820 census)
Proof 7

       

Thomas Norden b.abt.1766, m.Patience Gardner d.1823

  Richard Norden b.1800
  John D. Norden b.Dec 1799
  William Norden b.1805 d.bef 1840
  Norman Norden b.1830
Mary Norden m. Johnson

John Nordan b.abt 1768 m. Elizabeth matthews, d.1824
no known children

William Nordin b. abt 1770 m.abt 1786 d.before 1800 census
no known children

Robert Nordin b. abt 1773 m.abt 1804 mary Morgan d.1816

  John A. Nordin b.1805 m.1824 Sarah McLean d.1870
  Aaron Nordin b.1813 m.1833 Mary Polly Campbell d.1865
  Amos Nordin b.1814 d.bef 1880
no children
  Keziah Nordin b.1815
  Robert A. Nordin b.1816 m.1837 Nancy Hawley d.
   
   
     
     
     
         
         
         
         
         


Proof 1 for Sarah Norden, > Francis > Rev Robert Norden

1) A Robert Norden is mentioned as the nephew of Arthur Bridger in law suit 1759 Richmond.
2) This means that Arthur married Robert Norden's aunt.

3) Pedigree showing how Arthur Bridges who married a Norden fits in. Wife of Arthur Bridges was Sarah.

Pedigree of Allen Family

John Allen 1604 in [city], [county], Virginia
Joseph Allen 1616 in [city], [county], Virginia
Ann Allen 1620 in [city], [county], Virginia
--- husband - Robert Williamson
Joan Allen 1629 in Bacons Castle, Surry, Virginia
Elizabeth Allen - b.1631 Bacons Castle, Surry, Virginia
Humphrey Allen abt 1637 in [city], [county], Virginia
Katherine Allen 1645 in Isle Wight, Surry, Virginia
James Allen
Arthur Allen - 1627 in Bacons Castle, Surry, Virginia d.1710
--- wife- Katherine Baker - 13 Dec 1630 in Lawnes Creek, Surry, Virginia d.5 Sep 1710 in [city], Surry, Virginia

Arthur - 1651 in Bacons Castle, Surry, Virginia
John - abt 1683 in Bacons Castle, Surry, Virginia
James - abt 1680 in Bacons Castle, Surry, Virginia d.24 Jan 1711 (will names brothers, sister and mother - no children)
Joseph - 1665 in Bacons Castle, Surry, Virginia
Ann - abt 1660 in Bacons Castle, Surry, Virginia
Mary - abt 1692 in Surry, [county], Virginia
Elizabeth - 1662 in Bacons Castle, Surry, Virginia
--- husband - William Bridger b.1658 in Isle Of Wight, Virginia d.23 Nov 1730

Arthur Bridger - b.abt 1703 d.after 1759
--- wife - Sarah (Norden) - b.abt 1706 (Timothy Bridges - witnessed the Will (1720) of Thomas Harrison who was a companion Minister with R Norden 1717.)
James Bridger - b.1706 in Isle Wight, Surry, Virginia
Elizabeth Bridger - b.1709
Martha Bridger - b.16 Feb 1709 in Isle Wight, VA
Samuel Bridger - b.abt 1719 in Isle Wight, VA d.1730
Joseph John Bridger - b.abt 1728 in [city], Isle Of Wight, VA (died same year)
William Bridger - abt 1729 in Isle Wight, Surry, Virginia - d.24 Jul 1732 Lower Parish, Isle Of Wight, Virginia


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SURRY COUNTY, VA - WILLS - James Allen, 24 Jan 1711 Wills: James Allen, Southmark Parish, Surry Co, VA
WILL OF JAMES ALLEN 24TH JANUARY 1711

In the name of God amen I James Allen of Lawnes Parish in the county of Surry being sick and weak in body but of perfect sense and disposing mind and memory all land and praise be given to almighty God therefore and having in remembrance the certainty of death but the uncertainty of the time when I do settle, establish, and ordain this my Last Will and Testament in manner following:

First and principally and far more worthy in esteem and consideration than any outward good or enjoyments I recommand my soul to almigty God, the father of spirits, trusting and firmly believing through their mercys of God in and of us Christ to receive thee pardon and remission of all my sins whenever this mortal life shall cease, and it is then also my will and desire that my body be committed to the earth to be buryed in Christian manner at the discretion of my Executor hereafter named and for what worldly estate it hath pleased the Lord in mercy to possess me with after my just debts and funeral charges are defrayed, I give, bequeath and dispose of as followeth:

I give and bequeath to my loving brother Arthur Allen and to his heirs forever fourteen hundred acres of land granted to me by Pattent dated the 25th day of Aprill Anno Dom. 1701 sciutate on the south side of the main Blackwater Swamp, part in the County of Surry, and part in the County of Isle (of Wight) except seven hundred acres of land which I have sold to Thomas Pittman and Samuel Lancaster and three hundred acres of land which I have sold to Joseph Wall. All which said three parcels of land are part of the aforesaid Pattent and I do give and bequeath them to my loving brother John Allen and to heirs forever with intent that he may make over and conform the said three pieces of land to the said parties and their heirs forever as soon as possible he can after my death by such deeds and instruments of writing as their learned council in the law shall require which I do intreat and desire my said brother John Allen to do.

I give and bequeath my negro slave Harry to my loving mother Katherine Allen for and during her natural life and immediately after her decease to my loving brother Joseph Allen and to his heirs forever.

I give and bequeath to Margaret Coker, wife of John Coker, a thousand pounds of tobacco.

I give and bequeath to my couzen Arthur Bridger when he comes to the age of one and twenty years to be then paid him by my Estate a small silver tankard of the value of four pounds sterling.

I give and bequeath all the right and remainder of my personal estate to be equally divided between all my brothers and sisters viz: Elizabeth Bridger, wife of William Bridger, John Allen, Arthur Allen, Ann Allen, Mary Allen and Joseph Allen and it is my further will and desire that my said brothers and sisters may have, receive, and possess their several respective legacys above mentioned when they attain the age of eighteen years or marryed.

It is my will and desire and I hereby nominate, constitute, and ordain my loving brother John Allen Executor of this my Last Will and Testament in testimony of all which I have hereunto set my hand and seale this 24th day of January 1711. The words (forever) in the eighteenth line and the word (between) in the forty-third were put in before signing and sealing. James Allen, sealed with red wax signed, sealed and declared to be the Last Will
and Testament off the subscribor in presence of:
Thomas Drew
Richard Taylor
Arthur Allen

Source: Library of Virginia, Wills, Deeds, Etc.
1709-1715, Reel 3


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Proof 2 for Charles Norden (spelled Noten) son of Rev Robert Norden
1) Will of Charles Noten mentions Edward Markes who is associated with father Rev Robert.
2) Charles will was proved very close to where Rev Robert Norden lived.

Will of Charles Noden - 1724
(Deeds etc. 1713-28, page 727, Prince George Co.VA.)

In the Name of God, Amen. I Charles Noden of Martin Brandon Parrish, in Prince George County, School-Master, being very weak in Body tho' of perfect mind and memory, thanks be to God for it, do make this my Last Will and Testament in manner and form following.- Imprimis. I give and bequeath my soul into the hands of that Almighty God that gave it, and my Body to the Earth to be in a Christian Like and decent manner buried, hopeing thro' the merits and intersession of my blessed Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, not my own deserts, to receive the same again at the General resurrection of the Dead, and to be received into the fullness of joy, among the number of the Elect, which God of his Infinite mercy grant. Amen. Item. I give unto my very good friend James Bell of the aforesaid parrish and County, all that small matter where withall it hath pleased God to bless me with, and do make him Executor of this my Last Will and Testament, only desiring that if any medicine should come in to me of next shipping, that Doctor Hammersley may have the physical part; and if there be any other Goods desire Mr.Bell may keep them for his own use. In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal this Eleventh day of April, in the year of our Lord, One Thousand, Seven Hundred and twenty four.

Charles Noden Seald w'th. red wax.
Signed, Seald and Declared by the said Charles Noden to be his Last Will and Testament in presence of us}
Edward Markes
Richard Stevens
John (the mark of) Bailey

At a Court held at Merchants Hope for Prince George County on the Second Tuesday in August, being the Eleventh day of the said month Anno Dom: 1724. The above written Last Will and Testament of Charles Noden dec'ed. was Exhibited into Court by James Bell his Executor who made oath thereto and it being proved by the oaths of Edward Markes and Richard Stevens two of the witnesses thereto, is by order of the Court truly recorded. And on the motion of the said James Bell, and his giveing Security according to Law Certificate is granted him for obtaining a probate of the said Will in due form.

Test Wm. Hamlin ClCur.

Submitted by Russell L. Lawrence <ruslaw@impop.bellatlantic.net>

And on pg. 747
"Inventory of Charles Noden Value L3/19/2
Appraised by Peter Talbott, William (WB) Bleighton, Peter (PA)
Anderson, James Bell, Executor. Recorded Oct 13, 1724"

Names mentioned in Charles Noten's will:
James Bell,
Doctor Hammersley,
Edward Markes,
Richard Stevens,
John Bailey,
Peter Talbott,
William Bleighton,
Peter Anderson

Proof 3 Francis Norden (spelled Noden) son of Rev Robert Norden
1) Francis Norden was married (wife Mary was relict)
2) Since he was the only son of Rev Norden in Virginia that was married I have placed the children under him.
3) Probate was in Prince Georges County, VA

Probate of Francis Noden
Inventory of estate of Francis Norten, deceased, taken July 5, 1717. Value L 5/17/0 Appraised by Thomas Clay, Richard Munny, John Thweatt July 9, 1717. Inventory presented in court by Mary Norten, relict & exec.

Names mentioned in Probate
Thomas Clay - associated with Baptists, (Henry Clay)

http://pages.prodigy.net/blankenstein/clay.htm
THOMAS CLAY (father Charles) was born Abt 1670 in Henrico Co, Virginia, and died 1726 in Prince George Co, Va. He married MUNNS Abt 1705 in Henrico Co, Virginia. Children of THOMAS CLAY and MUNNS are:

1. CHARLES8 CLAY, d. Bet. 1754 - 1765.
2. JAMES CLAY, d. 1756.
3. JOHN CLAY, d. 1782; m. (1) SARAH TUCKER; m. (2) SARAH.
4. DOROTHY CLAY, m. JAMES COLE.
5. PHOEBE CLAY.
6. HANNAH CLAY.

CHARLES6 CLAY was born 1645 in Charles City County, Virginia, and died June 01, 1686 in Henrico Co, VA. He married HANNAH WILSON Abt 1667, daughter of JOHN WILSON. She was born 1642 in Henrico Co, VA, and died Bef. August 20, 1706 in Henrico Co, VA. Children of CHARLES CLAY and HANNAH WILSON are:

1. JOHN CLAY, b. Abt 1668, Henrico Co, VA; d. 1723, Chowan Co, NC.
2. THOMAS CLAY, b. Abt 1670, Henrico Co, Virginia; d. 1726, Prince George Co, Va.
3. HENRY CLAY, b. August 03, 1672, Henrico Co, VA; d. August 03, 1760, Henrico Co, VA.
4. MARY CLAY, b. Abt 1675, Henrico Co, Virginia.
5. ELIZABETH CLAY, b. Abt 1678, Henrico Co, Virginia.
6. JUDITH CLAY, b. Abt 1681, Henrico Co, Virginia.
7. CHARLES CLAY, b. Abt 1684, Henrico Co, Virginia; d. 1765, Chesterfield Co., Va.

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Prince George Co, Va Wills & Deeds 1713-1728 Weisiger 975.5585
Page 87 p.719 John Clay of Province of North Carolina released land to Henry Thweatt of Bristol Parish, Pr. Geo. Co, Va. And appoints friend Major Robert Munford attorney in transaction.

Dated Sept. 2 1723
Wit: James Thweatt John (X) Clay
Miles Thweatt
John (I) Ellis, Jr.
Recorded June 9, 1724

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Will
Thomas Clay, Son of Charles and Hannah Wilson Clay. Married Mary Hannah Munns or Munny about 1705 in Henrico County, Virginia

Thomas CLAY Sex: M Birth: 1670 in probably Henrico County, Virginia Death: 1726 in Prince George County, Virginia
Note:
Thomas Clay's Inventory and Appraisal on March 10, 1726/27, Value L 141/12 /11 by John Fitzgerald, Administrator. Appraised by Matthew Mayes, John Coleman, and William Spain. Recorded June 13, 1727. He signed a will on June 16, 1726 in Prince George County, Virginia. Will of Thomas Clay, June 16, 1726: To son Charles, land my brother Richard Munny now lives on, also an Indian Slave and Items. To son James, Land and plantation I live on, also land adjoining Edward Broadway, also intems. To son John, My entry of 250 acres on south side of Deep Creek, called "the wolf Pitt point", also L 10, at his coming of age, and what Maj. Munford owes me. To daughter Dorthy Clay, items L5 credit at Col Bollings store. To daughters Phebe and Hannah, L30 apiece. To All children, the remainder of estate equally divided. To John Fitzgerald, my son John Clay until he is 21 during said Fitzgerrald's life. To Son Charles, 2 shares of crop growing on my plantation, the rest to son James. My brother Henry Clay to be sole executor. Wit: James Powell Robert Tucker John Cordle His Will proven on November 8, 1726 in Prince George County, Virginia.

Richard Munny Munn? - Thomas Clay married Munny in Henrico
John Thweatt - John Clay of Province of NC released land to Henry Thweatt of Bristol Parish, Pr. Geo. Co, Va.

 

Proof 4 Robert Norden > Francis Norden > Rev Robert Norden
1) Robert is mentioned in a court case in Richmond Virginia 1759. Robert is probably deceased at this time.
2) He is also mentioned as the nephew and executor of Arthur Bridges.

Court of Chancery 1759 Wittingham and Sewells division
Oct 12, 1759 - Bill of Complaint by Richard Bridger against George and Ann Lathbury.

In 1752 George Lathbury mortgaged some land in Sussex to Robert Norden for a loan of 250 pounds. Norden was led to believe that the property was free from all encumbrances. He later borrowed 350 pounds from George Goldsmith using the same property as security. Norden and Goldsmith asked for repayment of the loans together with interest. Arthur Bridger of whom Robert was nephew and executor agreed to lend the money to repay them. Details of this agreement drawn up in 1757 in which the land was used as security.

Names mentionted in court doc.
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George Lathbury - his son (Richard) later brought suit against Richard Bridger
Ann Lathbury - b.1710 d.1761 daughter of Richard Everard, Gov of North Carolina
George Goldsmith - Baltimore county. MD originally from Susex, England
Arthur Bridger - lent money to Lathbury to repay (Robert is nephew and executor)

Bridgers of Ille of Wight, VA
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dewinc/d0000/g0000019.html#I0618

William Bridger born in Ille of Wight, VA died in Bertie, NC 1730 suggesting a link.
1711 "to cousin, Arthur Bridger, when he is 21" will of James Allen, Surry, VA suggesting Arthur is b.1700

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/7555/genealogy.html

SURRY COUNTY, VA - WILLS - James Allen, 24 Jan 1711
I give and bequeath to my couzen Arthur Bridger when he comes to the age of
one and twenty years to be then paid him by my Estate a small silver tankard
of the value of four pounds sterling.
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/surry/wills/allen24.txt

Proof 5 Charles Norden and Elizabeth Norden (spelled Noden) > Robert Norden > Francis Norden . Rev Robert Norden
1) Mention of Charles Noten by Elizabeth Noten as her brother.
2) Elizabeth Norden was orphaned before 1759.
3) Sometime around circa 1759, James George married Elizabeth Noden in Caroline Co, VA. It is possible that Elizabeth had been residing with the George family, as after she was orphaned, she first chose her brother Charles Noden as guardian, but later John George (James' father) was her guardian.

"John George was born 18 Aug 1704 [per the John Brown Family Bible] in Middlesex County, Virginia. He was probably named for his father's brother John George of Isle of Wight County."

On 14 Mar 1761 James George was named in a Caroline court record. This is complex, but here it is. The case was Charles Noden (James' brother-in-law) with an action of debt against John Thilman and Robert Mickelberry (both are James' cousins). The case was brought by Edmund Byne, assignee of James George, who was assignee of Richard Woolfolk, assignee of Charles Noden. Charles Noden lived outside of Caroline Co, VA at this time, hence the need for having someone sue on his behalf.

source http://www.martygrant.com/gen/george/george-james-pittsylvania.htm
(Charles Noden, son of Rev Robert Norden was by this time deceased and in any case Elizabeth was born well after he died so she had to belong to another brother)


Proof 6 William Norden > Rev Robert Norden (speculation, there are no documents)
1) Christopher Norden seems to follow the accepted naming pattern of Virginia for this period. IE Naming the first sons and daughters after grandparents before the parents. Christopher's 1st 4 children are:
Thomas, - Named for wifes father Thomas Emmerson
William - possible fathers, father
Martha - Named for wifes mother Martha Walker Emmerson
Sarah - possible fathers mother
John -
James
David
Elizabeth

Proof 7 Melchezidek Nordan

Deed Book 8- North Carolina"Abstracts of Deeds, Halifax County, North Carolina, 1758-1771" :
#772-(369) MELCHIZEDECK NORDEN planter of Halifax Co. to THOMAS MARSHALL of same. 18 Jan 1764. 80 pds of VA. 100 acres, joining Cainquarter Creek, CHADLOW. MELCHEZEDECK NORDEN, ELIZABETH NORDEN. Wit: MATTHEW GARRIGUS, WILLIAM JOHNSTON, DRURY KING. 20 Jan 1764. A.J.: Jos. Montfort

Deed Book 9- "Abstracts of Deeds, Halifax County, North Carolina, 1758-1771" :
#1034-(267) MELCHIZEDECK NORDEN of Halifax Co. to JOHN MUIRHEAD. 28 Jan 1765. 20 pds of VA. 176 acres which was part of land sd NORDEN had purchased from FRANCIS REDING 7 Dec 1761 joining THOMAS MARSHALL. MELCHIZEECK NORDEN. Wit: SAMUEL THOMPSON, THOMAS MARSHALL. Jul Ct 1765. CC: J. Montfort.

#1176-(450) JOHN MUIRHEAD of Isle of Wight Co. Virginia to JAMES FORSYTH of Granville Co. 1 Nov 1766. 20 pds of VA. 176 acres which was part of land acquired by MELCHIZADICK NORDAN from FRANCIS READING and which sd JOHN MUIRHEAD had purchased from NORDAN 28 Jan 1765, joining THOMAS MARSHALL. JOHN MUIRHEAD. Wit: THOS. MILLER, WILLIAM RANJ..? 3 Sept 1767. A.J.: Montfort Eelbeck.

Deed Book 10- "Abstracts of Deeds, Halifax County, North Carolina, 1771-1786" :
#1498-(524) THOMAS MARSHALL of Halifax Co. to his daughter MARTHA KING. 10 Feb 1769. For "natural love and affection." 640 acres which had been a Granville Grant to sd THOMAS MARSHALL 10 Dec 1760, reserving 10 acres for his lifetime. 100 acres which sd MARSHALL had purchased from MELCHIZEDECK NORDEN, on Cane Quarter Creek. THOMAS MARSHALL. Wit: EDWD. MONTFORT. Feb Ct 1769. CC: Jos Montfort.

Proof 8 John Norden > Melchizedek > Robert > Francis > Rev Robert
John Nordan
b.abt 1765 (calc from census)
d.May 1824 Cumberland, NC (source: will)
m. Elizabeth Mathews? abt 1790 (calc from census)

1790 Census NC Wake county
John Nordan 1-0-0-0-0
1800 Census NC Cumberland
John Nordin 1-0-0-1-0=1-0-3-1-0-0-0
1810 Census NC Cumberland
John Norden 5-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0-0-0

WILL of John Norden
In the name of God Amen. I John Norden of Cumberland County And State of North Carolina being poorly in body but in perfect mind and memory do make and Ordain this my last will and testament.first recommending my soul into the hands of God that gave it. Secondly my body to the earth to be deasently buried at the discretion of my Executors.

As to my earthly propertyI give and bequeath as follows that is to say first I give and bequeath to my beloved wife as follows that is my land and Stock of all Sorts my House and Kitchen furniture during her natural life and after her death I give to my Sister Mary Johnston and Thomas Norden and Robert Norden's children to be eaqually divided as the law directs, lastly I do constitute and Ordain this my last Will and testament disannulling all former wills and testaments and concerning this my last Will and testament. Also I appoint my beloved Wife Elizabeth Norden & Alsa Matthews, Executors to this my last Will and testament.
Signed Seald and delivered in the presents of us and we in the presents of each other this 10th day of May 1824 ___
John his X mark Norden
Jacob Matthews
John his X mark Norden

Proven December Term 1824 by John Norden Senr.
Elizabeth Norden qualified as Executor.

John 1756-1794 1800 census, 1766-1784 1810 census, >1775 1820 census
wife
-- boy b.1795 1800 Census 1790-1800, (-1810 Census),
-- girl b.1797 1800 Census 1790-1800, (-1810 Census), 1820 Census 1790-1800
-- boy b.1802 (-1810 Census), 1820 Census 1802-04
-- girl b.1804 (-1810 Census), 1820 Census 1802-04
-- boy b.1810 1820 Census 1810-20
-- girl b.1812 1820 Census 1810-20


1790 Census NC Johnston county

Thomas Nordin (spelled) 1-1-1-0-0 (1885 tax no listing)
1790 Census NC Wake county
Melchezedec Nordan (spelled) 2-0-2-0-0 (p.3)
John Nordan 1-0-0-0-0 (spelled) (p.3 opposite page)
Wm Nordin 1-1-4-0-5 (spelled) (p.7 m.
)

1800 Census NC Cumberland
Thomas Norden (spelled) 1-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0+0 (p17)
John Nordin (spelled) 1-0-0-1-0=1-0-3-1-0+0 (p15)

1810 Census NC Cumberland (listed together)
Thomas Norden 1-2-0-1-0=1-0-0-1-0+0
John Norden 0-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0+0 .
Robert Norden 5-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0+0
Malajaijah Norden 0-0-0-0-1=0-0-0-0-1+0

1820 Census NC Cumberland
John Norden 1-0-1-1-0-1=0-1-0-0-4=0-2 in agriculture
1820 Census NC Moore
Thomas Nordan 2-1-0-2-0-1=-2-1-0-1-0=0-3 agriculture

Thomas Norden

--- wife b. m. 1788 d. before 1800 census
--- wife b. 1775 earliest according to census 1800-1820

Thomas 1756-1794 1800 census, 1766-1784 1810 census, >1775 1820 census
wife 1775-1784??? 1800 census, 1766-1784 1810 census, 1775-1794 1820 census
-- girl
b.abt 1789 1790 Census analysis (1st wife)
-- boy b.1799? 1800 Census, 1810 Census, 1820 Census
-- boy b.1804? 1810 Census, 1820 Census
-- boy b.1806? 1810 Census, 1820 Census
-- girl b.1808? 1810 Census, 1820 Census
-- girl b. 1810? (-1810 Census), 1820 Census
-- boy b.1811 1820 Census
-- boy b.1813 1820 Census
-- girl b.1815
1820 Census

1790 Census NC Johnston county
Thomas Nordin 1-1-1-0-0 (last column spelled Nordin) 1m >16, 1f<16, 1f, 0 other free, 0 slaves
(1785 tax no listing)
1790 Census NC Wake county
Melchezedec Nordan 2-0-2-0-0 (p.3 ) 2m >16, 0f<16, 2f, 0other free, 0 slaves
John Nordan 1-0-0-0-0 (p.3 opposite page) 1m >16, 0f<16, 0f, 0other free, 0 slaves
Wm Nordin 1-1-4-0-5 (p.7 m.
) 1m >16, 1f<16, 4f, 0 other free, 5 slaves

1800 Census NC Cumberland
Thomas Norden (spelled) 1-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0+0 (p17)
John Nordin (spelled) ------1-0-0-1-0=1-0-3-1-0+0 (p15)

1810 Census NC Cumberland (listed together)
Thomas Norden 1-2-0-1-0=1-0-0-1-0+0 Capt Mac Cranies District, Cumberland, NC
John Norden 0-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0+0 . Capt Mac Cranies District, Cumberland, NC
Robert Norden 5-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0+0
Malekizah Norden 0-0-0-0-1=0-0-0-0-1+0

1820 Census NC Cumberland
John Norden 1-0-1-1-0-1=0-1-0-0-4=0-2 in agriculture
1820 Census NC Moore
Thomas Nordan 2-1-0-2-0-1=-2-1-0-1-0=0-3

William

girl b. 1787 (1774-1790) 1790 Census analysis
girl b. 1789 (1774-1790) 1790 Census analysis
girl b. 1790 (1774-1790) 1790 Census analysis

1790 Census NC Johnston county
Thomas Nordin 1-1-1-0-0 (last column spelled Nordin) 1m >16, 1f<16, 1f, 0 other free, 0 slaves
(1785 tax no listing)
1790 Census NC Wake county
Melchezedec Nordan 2-0-2-0-0 (p.3 ) 2m >16, 0f<16, 2f, 0other free, 0 slaves
John Nordan 1-0-0-0-0 (p.3 opposite page) 1m >16, 0f<16, 0f, 0other free, 0 slaves
Wm Nordin 1-1-4-0-5 (p.7 m.
) 1m >16, 1f<16, 4f, 0 other free, 5 slaves

1790 Census analysis

1790 Census NC Johnston county (1785 tax no listing)
Thomas Nordin 1-1-1-0-0 (last column spelled Nordin) 1m >16, 1f<16, 1f, 0 other free, 0 slaves

1) Thomas shows husband and wife and 1 female child.
2) Probably married less than 3 years. m=1787
3) Probably born about 1762 (25 years before marriage)
4) Living in a different county and spelled Nordin. Possibly a son of William Nordin.

1790 Census NC Wake county
Melchezedec Nordan 2-0-2-0-0 (p.3 ) 2m >16, 0f<16, 2f, 0other free, 0 slaves

1) Melcizedek shows husband and wife and 2 children older than 16 boy and girl.
2) Probably married less than 20 years. m=1770
3) Probably born about 1745 (25 years before marriage)
4) Living next to a son John and spelled the same.

John Nordan 1-0-0-0-0 (p.3 opposite page) 1m >16, 0f<16, 0f, 0other free, 0 slaves

1) John shows just himself and no wife or children.
2) Not married
3) Probably born about 1768 (22 years old.)
4) A son of Melcizedek and spelled the same.

Wm Nordin 1-1-4-0-5 (p.7 m.) 1m >16, 1f<16, 4f, 0 other free, 5 slaves

1) William shows himself and wife 1 female under 16 and 3 females over 16.
2) Probably married less than 23 years. m=1767
3) Probably born about 1742 (25 years old.)
4) A brother of Melcizedek and father of Thomas. (spelled Nordin)

1810 Census NC Cumberland (listed together)
Thomas Norden 1-2-0-1-0=1-0-0-1-0+0 Capt Mac Cranies District, Cumberland, NC
John Norden 0-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0+0 . Capt Mac Cranies District, Cumberland, NC
Robert Norden 5-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0+0
Malajaijah Norden 0-0-0-0-1=0-0-0-0-1+0


Analysis of Census/children

Thomas Norden
1790 Census NC Johnston county
(1785 tax no listing) Thomas Nordin 1-1-1-0-0
Thomas
Patience Garner
girl - under 16

1800 Census NC Cumberland Thomas Norden (spelled) 1-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0+0
Thomas 26-44 (1756-1744) b.1766
wife Patience Garner 16-26 (1756-1784) b. ?
boy under 10 b.1798?

1810 Census NC Cumberland Thomas Norden 1-2-0-1-0=1-0-0-1-0+0
Thomas 26-45 (1765-1784) b.1766
wife Patience Garner 26-45 (1765-1784)
boy 10-15 (1795-1800) ???
boy 10-15 (1795-1800) John D. b.1800
boy under 10 (after 1800) ???
girl under 10 (after 1800)

1820 Census NC Moore Thomas Nordan 2-1-0-2-0-1=-2-1-0-1-0=0-3 agriculture
Thomas 45+ (before 1775) b.1766
wife Patience Garner 26-45 (1794-1775)
boy 16-26 (1804-1794) ???
boy 16-26 (1804-1794) John D. b.1800
girl 16-26 (1804-1794)
boy 10-16 (1810-1804) ???
boy under 10 (after 1810) ???
girl under 10 (after 1810)
girl under 10 (after 1810)

John Norden
1790 Census NC Wake county John Nordan 1-0-0-0-0
John Norden

1800 Census NC Cumberland John Nordin 1-0-0-1-0=1-0-3-1-0+0
John 26-44 (1756-1744) b.1768
Elizabeth Matthews 26-44 (1756-1744)
girl 16-25 (1804-1794) relation
girl 16-25 (1804-1794) relation
girl 16-25 (1804-1794) relation
boy under 10 (after 1800)
girl under 10 (after 1800)

1810 Census NC Cumberland John Norden 0-0-0-1-0=0-0-1-0-0+0
John 26-45 (1765-1784) b.1768
Elizabeth Matthews 16-25 (1794-1785) much younger
no children

1820 Census NC Cumberland John Norden 1-0-1-1-0-1=0-1-0-0-4=0-2 in agriculture
John (before 1775) b.1766
Elizabeth Matthews (before 1775) b.1766
girl (before 1775) b.1766
girl (before 1775) b.1766
girl (before 1775) b.1766
boy 16-26 (1804-1794) ???
boy 10-16 (1810-1804) John b.1805
boy under 10 (after 1810) Aaron b.1813
girl under 10 (after 1810)

William Norden
1790 Census NC Wake county William Norden 1-1-4-0-5 (p.7 m.
) 5 slaves
William b.1761
wife
girl over 16
girl over 16
girl over 16
girl under 16

Catherine Norden
The will of Stephen Layless (Lillis)
March 1717
Layless (Lillis), Stephen Wills and Administrations of Elizabeth City County, Virginia 1688-1800
"Money left me by my son John (Lillis) in the hands of Catherine Norden, ????? to my wife, my son Thomas, my daughter. My personal estate to be divided between Mary Henderson, Catherine Norden and John Bordland.
Exec: Catherine Norden and John Bordland. Dec 17, 171?
Received March 8, 1717.
Witness: Nathaniel Parker, John Henry Rombough, Joseph Wragg.
Probation granted to Robert Norden March 1717."

Nathaniel Parker
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vafdking/parker.htm
http://www.sallysfamilyplace.com/Parker/tompark.htm#Nathaniel%20Parker%20d.%201730

John Henry Rombough
Court officer did many estate appraisals.